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27 October 2012 @ 04:01 pm
Faith 22 Or look at Liz rant a lot about Korean show because yes...thats healthy.  
This is a fandom rant. If you dont know what fandom is why I may need to rant. Ignore the crazy lady..I will post something kinda resembling a life update later. 

I have been having a lot of feels about Faith. And not positive ones which saddens me because I love Faith. I was on its boat from day one. All they had to tell me was Lee Minho and Mane of Glory and I was there with bells. (I have a weakness for Manes of Glory....and ass kicking) And I was surprised by how much I loved EVERYONE in the show. Even the villains who I am supposed to hate. 

But I am pissed now.

What I loved about Eunsoo, was that she was imperfect. She wasnt this paragon of virtue. She swore, she got angry, she coveted pretty things, she was real. I liked her brand of courage, and that under all the shallowness there was someone who really cared. Who would hold a impromptu makeover session with the Queen, and would create ways for herself to survive in this world that she had found herself. 

I got mad at ES for saying she wont live with out him , it reminds me to much of the girl/guy who threaten to kill themselves just because their significant others may leave them. Its a power play and I dont like it. I want to believe ES is strong enough to surivive without him, because the reality is he is warrior. One of these days he sint going to be faster than the other guy and he will die. So will ES just stop being when that happens?  I am supposed to believe that this woman who fought to try and make her own place in Goryeo time is suddenly completely different because she now loves some hot guy? 

ES, my darling, you survived loosing you whole world. Your entire family.  You are made of stronger stuff. I know she just wants to be with him but what do you think that is going to do to CY who only role in life is to be the protector. Spcially since he feels like he has failed in two big cases, Once with his fiance and Mentor and again with the Young King. How do you think it will effect him that he could have prevented the death of someone he loves deeply ? Do you really think he will survive that? During that entire speech I kept wanting to shout at ES THATS GREAT THAT THATS HOW IT WILL EFFECT YOU BUT WHAT ABOUT HIM! WHy are you playing on his every fear. CY lives every day knowing he could die. Knowing he can die. And that it isnt hard. Look at how many lives he has taken in this course of this show.  What does it do to his peace of mind knowing that the women he would die/kill over will give up if something happens to him or she is taken away?

CY is a incredibly anxious character. Its going to hurt him deeply that she is lying to him.  It is going to prey on every insecurity that he has. And that is messed up. 

Another thing that bothered me was Jang Bin's death and how it was dealt with outside of how they killed him. I wanted to smack ES and tell her to respect Jang Bin's choices. And honestly, Jang Bin while a healer was also a fighter....He made the choice to protect the antidote over his people. Respect his damn sacrifice. To paraphrase Barrons from the Fever Series "Something is sacred until you act like it isnt anymore, than you lose it forever"

Jang Bin's death will mean something as long as you act like it does, but as soon as you act like its all about you. It means nothing.  And that mes me angry and it turned into being all about ES, because made the death null and just another point of angst for ES.


I was more invested when I thought CY and ES would be adults about this romance, where they could be able to love each other and walk away and have it mean something. Instead of OMFG I CANT LIVE WITHOUT AND I WILL DIE AND LIFE I WILL SUCK AND ONLY THIS TAYLOR SWIFT SONG EXPLAINS MY REAL FEELS!

And all of this hurts me because I so want to love this show. And I want to be happy with the ship is headed but I cant. I want my Imperfect Heroine and Broken Hero to make each other better people no matter what. Even if their paths go in opposite directions. And to be able to live on knowing that someone once loved them more than they loved themselves so now they can move on and face whatever their coming battles are. (Whether it be opening their own practice or protecting the king)

Also I am a little bothered that basically  that their love in worth more than the lives of countless people who arent time traveler's whose lives are going to either written out or changed drastically for their love.

There is also the possibility I am just cranky too.





 
 
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joonnijoonni on October 28th, 2012 02:07 am (UTC)
One thing I want to ask first. Isn't Eun-soo's selfishness in asking CY to watch her die an example of her imperfection?

I was more invested when I thought CY and ES would be adults about this romance, where they could be able to love each other and walk away and have it mean something.

Ah, onichick. I have post lined up for publication tonight that talks about this. I had the same dear wish as you, that CY and ES would be made better people by their love and live on without each other well. I felt the same disappointment when ES implied it wouldn't be like that.

But redpinkboxes post that I am going to link to in my post helped me overcome this disappointment a little. You know, this drama requires a lot of mental exercise to overlook its flaws and I've been willing to do it because there is something I love about it despite its flaws. Both my ES post and the ending post I am going to publish soon required a lot of rewriting, contemplating, explaining, reworking for my conflicting thoughts to be settled and come out coherently in the writing. Ultimately, I made the choice to believe in the best of CY and ES. And it's actually quite easy for me because the writer has left so much open until the very end. Thank god I am someone who doesn't really care about endings. :)
Lizzyonichick on October 28th, 2012 02:20 am (UTC)
I guess for me to a certain degree it just felt out of step with the character. But I dont, I also could have been just projecting too.


I could never really hate this drama, at its core despite all its flaws and directing issues it hits all the right spots for me, and it has a cast that obviously loves to work with each other which always greatly endears me to show,

I will get over my frustration. Im just still in that anger phase a little bit. I will move on to grieving and bargaining soon enough.

I was prepared to have this drama be in my top 3 for the year, and with some of theses missteps its fallen down to maybe top 6 depending on what they do with the end.

Just give me Choi Young with a baby or kids and Im sure I will forget all about anything that might have ever been wrong with this show.

I just feel bad because I dont want people to think I hate the show, I just get more frustrated at wasted potential than something that is just really bad. Its like the more you care about them the more you yell?
joonnijoonni on October 28th, 2012 02:08 am (UTC)
Oh, is that Ho-young in your icon?
Lizzyonichick on October 28th, 2012 02:21 am (UTC)
And yes it is. I have a huge squishy spot in my heart G.O.D and Son Ho Young in general. I need to hug him one day.
lb_klove on October 30th, 2012 05:05 am (UTC)
ES THATS GREAT THAT THATS HOW IT WILL EFFECT YOU BUT WHAT ABOUT HIM I can see why you are upset, but human beings are created by nature to be selfish. Even sacrofices are driven by selfish desires, ultimately. And I beg to differ - she has been doing a lot of things for him, does not she deserves to think about herself for once. What kind of relationship would that be, if she can not be vulnarable with him? She had to point it out because he was selfish himself, thinking only about her physical safety... Those two are between a rock and a hard place. But you are putting out a lot of great ideas to ponder. People say things they do not mean sometimes, or mean for that moment or just to comfort each other or.. for millions of other reasons. All and all, whether they are together or not at the end, they have already made each other stronger and better. They can say what the want now, but the characters we see will survive without each other if they have to.
Lizzyonichick on October 31st, 2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
Wow. Didnt really expect anyone cept Joonni to read this lol.

Than k you for taking the time to comment. This post was cathartic for me. It allowed to get out my icky feeling about things so I could just enjoy what was happening in the show.

I have a issue with Kdramas with the power dynamics between Men and Women at times. I know there is a lot cultural context to it but I tend to have a knee jerk first reaction which I usually talk myself down from.

I also tend to over analyze and get to caught up in a moment that sometimes its hard for me to see the big picture.

(Anonymous) on October 31st, 2012 07:02 pm (UTC)
Hey! This is Danielle btw. I'm too lazy to log into LJ. Finally got around to reading this :D

As for ES, I think with her "I won't live without you." wasn't that she couldn't, just that she didn't want to. Like, she loves him, why should she leave him?

I actually really liked that she did that. Cuz generally the girl will be all 'I don't want you to be in pain so I'LL leave and then suffer by myself.' Because no matter how much you want to be an adult about something, if you truly love someone, there is no way you could be the same without them. There is no way you could not suffer without them. There will always be a hole where they used to be. And even if you move on and get over it and find new love or whatever, you are always deeply marked by that.

So in order to get it through CYs thick skull that SHE didn't want to suffer that, ES had to pull a dirty trick and say that SHE couldn't live without HIM so that he would (theoritically) give in.

So, I think to that effect she remaind true to her character. Because typical self-sacrificing heroins wouldn't have put CY first. But she put herself first and in her own way, she was putting him first too. Because either way they would be separated. Either by time or by death. And either way it would kill CY. So at least this way they had a shot at being together instead of giving it up and walking away.

And as the ending proved, ES CAN go on without CY...and CY could go on without ES. But they weren't really living. Just waiting with the hope that they could be together again some day.

What I also liked about this show was that it made ES a PART of history instead of someone who was changing it. She didn't have to worry about changing the future because history already knew she would be there, and she was already a part of the events of history. It was nice because we didn't have to worry about her the way we had to worry about Boong-Do in QIHM for example.

But yeah. I still didn't like the ending. I was happy they were together but it was so rushed it just felt stupid, lol. Too much time wasted on things that were unimportant. I don't know what in the world happened to this writer in this series but she either had a ghost-writer or needs to go back to writing school because, as much as we loved the characters you have to admit the plot was really terrible...but the potential for it to be awesome was always there. To me, that is what is really depressing about this drama.

And...

HAHAHA LOL Barrons. Who could argue with Barrons?

Anyway, it's over. So now we just get to wallow in NG pain. Joy.